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		<title>By: fredrin</title>
		<link>http://fredart.com/wordpress/2005/10/11/adrift/comment-page-1/#comment-2674</link>
		<dc:creator>fredrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, there is no way that whatever 'hurt' i may have accidentally caused should have in ANY way resulted in LEVEL of nastiness and anger that i was kicked in the face with.

It points out to me how little i understand some of these 'people'.  What happens if i do something else to elicit the same response?  Do you really think i will feel comfortable always worried and scared that something i might say or do might result in getting kicked in the face again?

No. I've taken many hits from people in the forum over the years, and like you discuss, i let things pass, or just deal with it and move on.  I cannont feel 'comfortable' in this forum, knowing that some of these people are willing to treat me this way.  Smart people avoid abusive relationships

I'm going to close this because i dont want this to be a big long discussion about something im really not happy about, but is also something that i've moved past and moved on.  Thank you for your efforts, 3power, but I'm really afraid some people really don't 'get it', and i dont really feel like explaining it to anyone anymore :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, there is no way that whatever &#8216;hurt&#8217; i may have accidentally caused should have in ANY way resulted in LEVEL of nastiness and anger that i was kicked in the face with.</p>
<p>It points out to me how little i understand some of these &#8216;people&#8217;.  What happens if i do something else to elicit the same response?  Do you really think i will feel comfortable always worried and scared that something i might say or do might result in getting kicked in the face again?</p>
<p>No. I&#8217;ve taken many hits from people in the forum over the years, and like you discuss, i let things pass, or just deal with it and move on.  I cannont feel &#8216;comfortable&#8217; in this forum, knowing that some of these people are willing to treat me this way.  Smart people avoid abusive relationships</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to close this because i dont want this to be a big long discussion about something im really not happy about, but is also something that i&#8217;ve moved past and moved on.  Thank you for your efforts, 3power, but I&#8217;m really afraid some people really don&#8217;t &#8216;get it&#8217;, and i dont really feel like explaining it to anyone anymore <img src='http://fredart.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 3Power</title>
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		<dc:creator>3Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"3power, dude, you have GOT to be kidding.  I will NOT appologize for doing NOTHING to hurt ANYONE. "
It's perfectly obvious to me that the reactions that you received were not what you expected at all, thus, it's obvious to me that you never intended things to turn out that way.  As I said earlier, I can can sympathize with that, and not just on the forums, in my personal life as well.

Look Fred, I'm not asking you to apologize for making decicions which I'm sure you decided would be for the best.  As other people have said: "your forum, your rules."  You had each and every right to do what you did.  Nevertheless, your actions hurt a number of people, and yes they *were* hurt, otherwise they would have never reacted the way they did.  You can tell just by the things they said (which I realize are difficult for you to look at) that they felt they had been purposefully insulted.  You didn't mean to insult anyone fred, but you did.  That's the truth of the matter.  I happen to know for a fact that the people who flamed you are truly sorry for what they've done and want you back in the community.  The reason I ask you to apologize, and to *only* apologize for hurting their feelings, is because unless you do, that rift will remain forever.  Everyone has had an argument with a friend once in a while, Fred, and unless they both apologize the problem will never go away.  Trust me, Fred, I'm sure it's the right thing to do, as difficult as it may seem.

"One of my many many character faults is that i have a tendency to apologize for things, even if i am not really the one at fault.  Sorry, not this time."
I do the same thing, fred. I hate yelling and arguing with loved ones more than anything else in my life.  It merely means you are a sensitive person, and wish to avoid disputes.  It's nothing to be ashamed of.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;3power, dude, you have GOT to be kidding.  I will NOT appologize for doing NOTHING to hurt ANYONE. &#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s perfectly obvious to me that the reactions that you received were not what you expected at all, thus, it&#8217;s obvious to me that you never intended things to turn out that way.  As I said earlier, I can can sympathize with that, and not just on the forums, in my personal life as well.</p>
<p>Look Fred, I&#8217;m not asking you to apologize for making decicions which I&#8217;m sure you decided would be for the best.  As other people have said: &#8220;your forum, your rules.&#8221;  You had each and every right to do what you did.  Nevertheless, your actions hurt a number of people, and yes they *were* hurt, otherwise they would have never reacted the way they did.  You can tell just by the things they said (which I realize are difficult for you to look at) that they felt they had been purposefully insulted.  You didn&#8217;t mean to insult anyone fred, but you did.  That&#8217;s the truth of the matter.  I happen to know for a fact that the people who flamed you are truly sorry for what they&#8217;ve done and want you back in the community.  The reason I ask you to apologize, and to *only* apologize for hurting their feelings, is because unless you do, that rift will remain forever.  Everyone has had an argument with a friend once in a while, Fred, and unless they both apologize the problem will never go away.  Trust me, Fred, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s the right thing to do, as difficult as it may seem.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of my many many character faults is that i have a tendency to apologize for things, even if i am not really the one at fault.  Sorry, not this time.&#8221;<br />
I do the same thing, fred. I hate yelling and arguing with loved ones more than anything else in my life.  It merely means you are a sensitive person, and wish to avoid disputes.  It&#8217;s nothing to be ashamed of.</p>
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		<title>By: fredrin</title>
		<link>http://fredart.com/wordpress/2005/10/11/adrift/comment-page-1/#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>fredrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You need to stand up strong and proud and apologize to the people whose feelings you hurt."

3power, dude, you have GOT to be kidding.  I will NOT appologize for doing NOTHING to hurt ANYONE.

One of my many many character faults is that i have a tendency to apologize for things, even if i am not really the one at fault.  Sorry, not this time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You need to stand up strong and proud and apologize to the people whose feelings you hurt.&#8221;</p>
<p>3power, dude, you have GOT to be kidding.  I will NOT appologize for doing NOTHING to hurt ANYONE.</p>
<p>One of my many many character faults is that i have a tendency to apologize for things, even if i am not really the one at fault.  Sorry, not this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 04:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...confused... but whatever it was just remember one thing...... W3 l_0v35 j00  4nd M364T0ky0.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;confused&#8230; but whatever it was just remember one thing&#8230;&#8230; W3 l_0v35 j00  4nd M364T0ky0&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: kimiko_xp</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimiko_xp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 02:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I comment on here everyonce in awhile under the name Samantha because that is my real name but on the SD forms its kimiko_xp. I am only a minor person there and most likely arn't noticed in the few times that I hang out there. I am sure that there are lots of people like me who just go everyone in awhile...

For us its really sad that something like this happened... I don't understand why people were so mean... its just a form for goodness sake. I wonder if people act like this in real life too... anyway... you are the one spending the money and making the comic that supports that forum.

I really don't think its fair for them to make you feel uncomfortable in your own place. Reciently I was attacked by a "friend" who goes to my karate dojo and I didn't feel comfortable going there anymore either but I HAD to keep going because I love that place and it was not fair of me to stop going when other people depended on me.

At least these people aren't facing you with a boken in their hands.

I hope you feel better with whatever you decide but it will really be a shame for you to not come over there anymore. (And here I was expecting to read some threads about l33t sp33k d00d and fun things like that)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I comment on here everyonce in awhile under the name Samantha because that is my real name but on the SD forms its kimiko_xp. I am only a minor person there and most likely arn&#8217;t noticed in the few times that I hang out there. I am sure that there are lots of people like me who just go everyone in awhile&#8230;</p>
<p>For us its really sad that something like this happened&#8230; I don&#8217;t understand why people were so mean&#8230; its just a form for goodness sake. I wonder if people act like this in real life too&#8230; anyway&#8230; you are the one spending the money and making the comic that supports that forum.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think its fair for them to make you feel uncomfortable in your own place. Reciently I was attacked by a &#8220;friend&#8221; who goes to my karate dojo and I didn&#8217;t feel comfortable going there anymore either but I HAD to keep going because I love that place and it was not fair of me to stop going when other people depended on me.</p>
<p>At least these people aren&#8217;t facing you with a boken in their hands.</p>
<p>I hope you feel better with whatever you decide but it will really be a shame for you to not come over there anymore. (And here I was expecting to read some threads about l33t sp33k d00d and fun things like that)</p>
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